If Tony Blair really wants to protect the law-abiding majority, there are better ways of doing it than attacking the legal system...
The Prime Minister's visit to the White Hall Community Centre in Bristol elicited this quote from a woman named Michelle Stone: 'We have got groups of 30 youths who hang around outside my home causing chaos. They're armed with baseball bats and snooker cues and they are totally out of control.' Another man told Tony Blair that he had moved from the estate because his son was bullied by a gang and he was intimidated following his report about a burglary.
Any of us would find this intolerable and we cannot doubt the motives of Blair's speech which followed his visit to the centre. In the latter part of his premiership, he sees it as his duty to alleviate the lot of victims of antisocial behaviour by cutting through the criminal justice system and providing satisfaction to the communities which suffer from yobs and low-level crime.
I cannot argue with much of that, and having once lived on the border of Toxteth in Liverpool and at the centre of Manchester's Moss Side, I can understand the frustration Michelle Stone felt. But only once have I witnessed the total turnround on the streets and that took place not in Britain but in Manhattan where I was living in 1993 and 1994.
At the weekend, the place was a farmers' market for drugs, with dealers coming from all of the five boroughs and beyond to sell their produce. The park at night was a no-go area and on the streets leading to it, I would be stopped every 20 yards or so by men selling crystals or 'smoke'. Between the two sets of doors to my apartment building, I often came across people sheltering from the exceptionally harsh winter and smoking crack.
The situation changed when William Bratton was made police chief and introduced zero tolerance policing by moving officers on to the streets. The park was reclaimed within a week and the dealers who used to station themselves outside my ground-floor window were replaced by two of New York's finest. I became so fond of them I photographed them one Sunday morning.
The message I took from this truly dramatic change was that a permanent police presence and the enforcement of laws that existed could achieve miraculous results. Bratton, now chief of the Los Angeles Police Department, altered the entire feel of New York and the city has never looked back.
Given Bratton's appearance in Britain last week, it was astonishing that nowhere in his speech did Blair mention policing. If the Southmead area of Bristol and others like it experienced the sudden concentration of uniforms and a real determination to enforce the law, I am certain the problem would begin to be sorted out. It's not raids, swoops or surveillance cameras that do the trick, but a steady and resolute police presence.
Instead, he talked about bringing offenders to justice quickly, the rights of victims, the unspecified increase in summary justice and the gap between the public's expectations and the actual performance of the courts. He called for a wholesale rebalancing of the criminal justice system which, when you come to look at it, is bound up in a rather curious attack on universal rights. 'I have come to the conclusion,' he said, 'that part of the problem in this whole area has been the absence of a proper, considered, intellectual and political debate about the nature of liberty in the modern world.'
What he probably means by debate is not debate at all, but a popular acceptance of his disdain for civil liberties, a phrase, by the way, which has been successfully weighed down with ideas of liberal fecklessness and is now used to blame the failure on the ground of parts of the criminal justice system. Blair's government may have passed more than 40 separate pieces of law and order legislation since 1997, yet liberals and their addiction to rights are still held to impede progress in criminal justice.
Calling for a debate on liberty is, I suspect, nothing more than preparation for the further dismantling of suspects' and defendants' rights.
Much of what Blair said comes from a little-read paper by Lord Falconer called 'Doing Law Differently', which was circulated in April and contains oddly mechanistic language. In Falconer's mind, the law must be 'recalibrated', 're-engineered', 'reshaped', 'rebalanced' and 'regeared'. It is as though the practical-minded Blairite engineers had just taken over some antiquated bottling plant and were filing their initial technical assessments. Odd when they have been on the job for nine years.
There is much to agree with in the paper, but then you hit the section entitled 'Re-engineering criminal justice: speedy, simply, summary', and you come across the sentence: 'The defendant needs proper protection against injustice ... but our aim should be a system which will allow the court to know what happened and a process that will be driven by the substantive merits of the case, not the exploitation of safeguards.'
It has the feeling of entering a scene written by Joseph Heller, because the sentence begins by saying one thing but ends by stating entirely the opposite. And what does he mean by a system which allows the court 'to know what happened' and the 'substantive merits of the case'? Does this by any chance reduce the defendant's right to make his or her case in the same spirit with which other safeguards are obviously going to be removed?
The answer is yes. Later, Lord Falconer goes on to talk about the 'proportionality of process'. We all understand the need for a speedier, more responsive service in courts, but it is clear that this will be achieved under Labour by a reduction of the legal process and at the defendant's expense. Blair gave us a warning of this last year in his party conference speech, when he began to chip away at the proposition that our legal system is there to protect the innocent from being wrongly convicted.
In Bristol, he was more explicit. 'This is not an argument about whether we respect civil liberties or not ... it's about which human rights prevail. In making that decision, there is a balance to be struck. I am saying it is time to rebalance the decision in favour of the decent, law-abiding majority.'
He has moved to a position where human rights or civil liberties, or whatever you like to call the conventions that protect us all, have been reclassified - or perhaps recalibrated - as a privilege which can be denied by the state when a person becomes a suspect or a defendant.
This is a profound shift masked by a flattering appeal to the decent, law-abiding majority, of which most people naturally count themselves to be lifelong members. But the reason we have had these conventions since Magna Carta and regard them as a universal privilege to be conferred on everyone is that anyone of us can suddenly find him or herself a suspect, just as anyone may suddenly discover they are in minority.
It is not for the government to withdraw those rights in its quest to speed up justice, particularly after so much law has been passed and Blair has had nine years to address the problems of antisocial behaviour. Human rights or civil liberties are not commodities which can be awarded preferentially. They are indivisible, a standard which a society either chooses to respect or not.
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Above is the story from the Home Page.
They tried something similar a while ago here, in the Cleveland Constabulary area - to great success. And there it was called 'Zero Tolerance'.
The project was the brainchild of the Chief Constable, worked out in concert with local councillors, who funded it. He refused to stop the project, when later told to by those same local councillors, his view being that the expense was worth it as it dramatically brought down the figures for a large range of offences, & needed to be continued for a longer period, until it was instilled in the minds of potential criminals that they stood a far greater risk of apprehension than before.
The councillors had changed their minds, objecting to the ongoing heavy expenditure, purely on grounds of cost, & somewhat of a scandal brewed up when allegations of impropriety were made against the Chief Constable.
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Posted: 25 June 2006 at 6:11pm
Yes it was! I got a few of the details wrong as I couldn't remember the name of the officer in charge. Thank you for reminding me.
I did an internet search on 'Ray Mallon' & got the following details from Wikipedia. It would have helped if I'd done a similar search in the first place.............
Ray Mallon was a Detective Superintendent in Cleveland's CID. He was suspended by the Chief Constable Barry Shaw in 1997 due to allegations of corruption which he denied. 30 other officers were also investigated in what was called 'Operation Lancet'. No criminal charges were brought, but Ray Mallon faced disciplinary charges ranging through neglect of duty, falsehood to discreditable conduct.
In 2001, Ray Mallon offered his resignation, in a bid to free himself from the wrangle, but this was refused by the Chief Constable.
In 2002, Ray Mallon pleaded guilty to a total of fourteen disciplinary charges, & was "required to resign" from the force - although maintaining his innocence. He claimed that he had admitted to the offences simply to allow him to stand for public office.
In 2002, he became the first directly elected mayor of the Borough of Middlesborough, standing as an independent candidate. He won with a 17,000 vote majority.
I apologize to both Mayor Ray Mallon & Chief Constable Barry Shaw for getting so much of my entry wrong & for any problems that I have caused by submitting it. I will not repeat this error again.
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From the 24/06/06 issue of the Spectator:-
‘You can control crime’
Allister Heath
It was as if the two men had suddenly burst out of nowhere. ‘You’re coming with us,’ one of them growled as they pounced on Caroline, grabbing her by the arms and starting to drag her down a dark side alley. It was the early hours of Saturday morning in central Durham, about a mile from the cathedral, a part of the city which is never deserted; so my friend, a 22-year-old medical student, lashed out screaming and kicking as hard as she could. For a split second, the kidnappers hesitated, allowing her to break free and run for her life.
But Caroline’s nightmare was soon compounded by the almost surreal ineffectiveness of the authorities. Durham City police station, which used to open around the clock, was closed, the manned presence replaced by an intercom. Despite repeated promises, officers never came to see her, blaming overwork. It took 14 hours and five phone calls before Caroline was finally granted an ‘incident number’; her ordeal may not even be recorded as part of the government’s crime figures, buttressing the laughable claim that crime is under control in Tony Blair’s Britain. One police operator informed Caroline that her attack wasn’t ‘a violent incident’; nobody seemed to care that two dangerous maniacs were still on the prowl in central Durham.
When I was told of Caroline’s brush with disaster last weekend, I was reminded of Irving Kristol’s famous line that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. But then I realised that in today’s angry, crime-ridden Britain, where many of us have friends or loved ones who have been mercilessly robbed or assaulted, a conservative is simply anyone who — perhaps against his better instincts — cheers on Clint Eastwood when, in his role as the rogue San Francisco cop Dirty Harry in those old 1970s movies, he ruthlessly hunts down and takes out criminals.
Those who take the Dirty Harry test with friends and family will soon discover that even many members of the smoothie-drinking, environmentally conscious, public-sector classes are unable to resist the charms of Harry Callahan and his Smith & Wesson .44 Magnum. In an otherwise increasingly liberal Britain, attitudes to crime are one of the few areas where traditional values have largely survived the culture wars; however, love for the bobby on the beat of yore has been replaced by a quiet rage against politically correct or incompetent police forces, judges and politicians.
Mr Blair and his new Home Secretary, John Reid, are well aware of this — more so than those Tories disdainful of popular support for a publicly accessible register of convicted child sex offenders. Indeed, even hardliners like David Davis are more cautious than the Prime Minister and the Home Secretary about the so-called Sarah’s law, modelled on America’s Megan’s law. It helps to explain why Mr Blair chose to call more forcefully than ever for a shift in emphasis from the rights of the criminal to the rights of the victim in an important speech in Bristol, and why Mr Reid has attacked judges and his own officials and belatedly banned paedophiles from hostels near schools. Last Sunday he went further, saying that the whereabouts of sex offenders ‘should no longer remain the exclusive preserve of officialdom’, almost endorsing the campaign for Sarah’s law.
And in what could yet turn out to be his most significant move, Mr Reid addressed a conference of top US police chiefs and crime specialists in London on Wednesday morning; invited by Sheila Lawlor of the Politeia think-tank, the US cops came to Britain to brief ministers, Home Office officials and British policemen on how they have reduced crime by vigorously applying ‘broken windows’ policing. In the 1980s, Americans felt powerless at the rising disorder afflicting US cities, just as we do today. But in the 1990s, starting in New York, everything changed, thanks to Mayor Rudy Giuliani, his police chief, Bill Bratton, and his deputy John Timoney, and academics such as James Q. Wilson of Harvard, George Kelling and Catherine Coles of the Manhattan Institute and Myron Magnet of City Journal.
There were 2,262 murders in New York City in 1990; last year, there were just 540, a collapse of 76 per cent. Rape is down 48 per cent, assault 61 per cent, robbery 76 per cent, burglary 80 per cent and car crime an astonishing 88 per cent. While many Londoners live in fear of violence, New York has undergone a cultural renaissance, and so it was with great expectation that I went to ask the authors of this transformation how they had done it.
I met the US police chiefs on Tuesday. They were in their shirtsleeves and looked as if they would have been happier on the beat in the Bronx than briefing ministers and giving interviews in London. They are fascinating men. Timoney, now Miami’s police chief and formerly in charge of Philadelphia, has the hard, rugged features of someone who has witnessed many horrors. He emigrated to the Big Apple from Dublin when he was 13, and joined the police straight from school. But if Timoney is as hard as nails, Bratton, who now heads the Los Angeles Police Department, cuts an even more severe figure. He never seemed to smile; he spent the interview peering at me suspiciously, while speaking remarkably lucidly about how crime can be smashed.
‘You can do something about crime. You can control it,’ Bratton said. ‘The American experience has clearly proven that. In the 1990s we finally got it right. It’s like a doctor dealing with a patient. If you find the right medicines, you can take even the most severely ill patients and make them well. And you’re probably one of the most severely ill patients of the Western world. You need political will. You need smart policing, intelligence-led policing, you need resources. This is not rocket science. Fighting crime is not the most difficult thing in the world.’
So what should be done? The first requirement is large numbers of police officers. That, of course, bodes ill for Britain: Gordon Brown looks inclined to starve the Home Office of cash in order to funnel everything into schools and hospitals. More bodies are not enough, in any case. Officers have to pursue seemingly minor crimes that, if left unattended, soon undermine order, especially ‘quality of life’ offences such as graffiti, litter or vandalism — hence ‘broken windows’ policing. The police must become embedded in neighbourhoods, respond to residents’ concerns, tap local knowledge and identify the small core of offenders responsible for much of the crime. All data needs to be fed into a real-time police intelligence system; local commanders must be penalised if crime doesn’t fall in their area. The aim is to move from a situation where the police react to crime to one where they prevent it from happening.
Needless to say, not all of New York’s drop in crime was due to better policing. Bratton has ‘some sympathy’ for the contentious view, expounded in the best-selling book Freakonomics, that legalised abortion may have helped reduce crime, but said its authors had failed to take into account the greater impact of the contraceptive pill. Overall, however, economic and social forces, such as unemployment or poverty, or changes in illegal drug prices, usually matter less than the quality of criminal justice systems. This fundamental truth is confirmed by Timoney’s success in Philadelphia and Miami, Bratton’s in Los Angeles, and that of their disciples in cities such as Chicago. ‘The first year after my appointment in Philly saw a dramatic decrease in all crimes, especially homicide, by 18 per cent in the first year and then 16 per cent in the next year. The interesting part, which proves the point, is that I left three years ago. They took their eye off the ball and homicide has crept right back up to where it was before I got there,’ Timoney said.
The chiefs were scathing about the British government’s plan, now delayed, to cut the number of police forces. Crime prevention works best when there are lots of local, accountable police forces, free to experiment, they said. They accused the British government of micromanaging the police, arguing that different local conditions require very different responses and local commanders should be given maximum discretion. But they approved of community support officers.
Ironically, Britain’s experience with the IRA ought to stand us in good stead in the war on crime. One of the most interesting ideas raised at Wednesday’s conference was that the anti-crime methods pioneered in New York also work against terrorists, especially the home-grown variety, and vice versa. ‘The same medicine can be applied to traditional crime and criminals, police crime and corruption, and now terrorism,’ Bratton said.
But one issue which wasn’t discussed is that Britain must hugely expand prison capacity if it wants to follow America’s lead. There are 77,785 prisoners in England and Wales, 144 per 100,000 people, and the prisons will be full within three months. But there are 2.1 million inmates in US jails, 724 per 100,000 Americans. While nobody is arguing that Britain would ever have to reach America’s imprisonment rate, New York’s crime-busting success involved a tripling of the prison population, as well as more police officers and better policing techniques, and so would a similar approach in Britain. Even if the £15 billion that would be saved by scrapping Labour’s ID cards scheme were to be spent on building more prisons, as shadow home secretary David Davis has suggested, capacity would rise to only 95,000 inmates, which is nowhere near enough.
But the fact that Mr Reid appears willing to learn from America suggests that after years of presiding over a contradictory combination of tough rhetoric, confused legislation and the destructive Human Rights Act, a Blair regime in its dying days may finally have grown up, helped by its collapse in the polls. The task ahead is monumental and urgent: whoever is in power will have to tackle the law’s deeply ingrained anti-punishment and anti-prison ideology, ridiculously lenient sentences for serious crimes, government-mandated early release schemes, criminals on probation who routinely offend, the embarrassments that are open prisons, community sentences and electronic tagging, as well, of course, as declining conviction rates and the failure to deport foreign prisoners.
This week may turn out to be Blair and Reid’s very own Dirty Harry moment, when they finally realised that they had to respond to public anxiety, and decide to act accordingly. If so, they should show they are serious by poaching one of New York’s crime-busting supercops and, as the movie said, ‘just turn him loose’ on Britain.
Allister Heath is associate editor of The Spectator and deputy editor of the Business.
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Posted: 25 June 2006 at 6:56pm
Personally, I'm entirely in favour of Zero Tolerance Policing - but ultimately, such Policing has to be a collective effort and certainly if adopted here, both the courts and CPS would have to also be on side. Given the CPS' mis guided idea of what would be likely to result in a successful prosecution; that is highly unlikely. But whatever the argument for or against zero tolerance, it undoubtedly works. It worked in New York - and it worked in Cleveland until the powers that be there conspired to undermine its architect. Mr Mallon is clearly highly regarded by the public of Cleveland given the vast majority with which he came into public life. That in itself is a clear indication of the impact he made during his time with the force. In the meantime, we can all discuss the issues, the failures and the whys and why nots of the criminal justice system - but the only way forward is in my mind is to tolerate nothing and instill back into society the respect for authority, which is sadly lacking by demonstrating no breach of the law, however minor or irrelevant, is acceptable. Far too much wrong doing has become acceptable simply on the grounds that it is minor and that the Police should be out catching 'real' criminals. Granted, Zero Tolerance Policing may make us unpopular in the short term (if we could be less popular than we are at the moment, but for all the wrong reasons); but people would soon get the message and come to appreciate the long term benefits. Simply put, whether it be New York or Cleveland in the late 90's, no single model of Policing has proven to have been as effective. Meanwhile, we remain saddled with this government's own latest Policing model - Neighbourhood Policing, which certainly from where I am looking is as ill conceived as the vast majority of their other ideas and is an abysmal failure already!
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Posted: 25 June 2006 at 8:54pm
Morek - I will go along with what you say........This "Neighbourhood Policing" concept worries me as it just appears to be a watered down version of the Village Bobby Scheme. The main difference being that with the Village Bobby Scheme there was zero tolerance policing! The Courts and punishment really meant something then!
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Posted: 26 June 2006 at 12:04am
tony_w - I think perhaps the Village Bobby scheme was before my time. But when I first joined, we had large shifts and Home Beat Officers, who were the 'local' bobby for their area. Certainly during my service, I think we were at our most effective then. Nowadays, 'shifts' are much smaller in size and it is these smaller shifts, which carry the greatest work load. Neighbourhood Policing in apparently about putting Officers back on the beat; local people will supposedly know their local 'bobby'. The government has set targets and has dictated that 70% of Operational Officers will be on Neighbourhood teams, whilst the remaining 30% will man response teams. This has recently been implemented in my force. The neighbourhood teams have quickly become snowed under as they deal with and investigate all volume crime for their particular ward or area. In some cases there is only one Officer for a particular ward; they have, or so it seems, scant little time for patrolling their 'beats'. Conversely, the 'Response Teams' are run absolutely ragged and the Neighbourhood Teams are further distracted from their duties to assist. Given the government's stance on Neighbourhood Policing and the manner in which many forces have embraced it, I fear that it will be with us some time - but it is clear already that it simply does not work. I think we both know the answer - put us all back on large shifts and leave us alone to do the job we all joined to do. I fail to see why the simplest of concepts is the hardest for us, or should I say our leaders, to grasp.
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Posted: 26 June 2006 at 10:33am
Morek - The Village Bobby Scheme past into the History Books some time ago, the last I would say were seen in the latter parts of the 1960/70's. Police Station strengths were smaller than you have now, but we did not have Officers doing paperwork, desk jobs, and the numerous squads that you now have. We definitely had more Officers out on the streets! Furthermore, the Village Bobby was solely responsible for what happened on his beat and lived on it. Quite obviously there were advantages and disadvantages to this. One needed a pass or authority to be off one's beat whether on or off duty, and you were expected to deal with all matters 24/7! Even in the Met one had to have a very good excuse to be in or on Police Property during one's stint of duty, and had to book in and out of the Station - Book 91, I think it was! Before you say anything - I do not think that such draconian ways are necessary today!
The problem today as I see it, is that there are far too many Officers sitting behind a desk, or on Station, or in a Squad or Team not dedicated to basic policing. All like to think that their Squad or Team is essential to dealing with a specialized task when in reality a Police Officer is, except in a few cases, a "jack of all trades and master of none" - i.e.: capable of dealing with just about all the various types of offences one can expect to be thrown at him/her. Most of the Traffic Officers I knew were quite capable of and did deal with anything that came their way - and yet still had their specialist skills of being Vehicle Examiners etc - a task that at one time many Village Bobbies carried out!
Quite why this migration to "fire brigade policing" took place rather defeats me. I know that legislation had placed additional burdens with regards paperwork on Officers, but I fail to see why modern technology cannot be introduced to alleviate that burden. The introduction of CPS into the scheme is a big big mistake and from the little that I have seen so far, has hampered many an investigation! It really amounts to trust - that seems in short supply these days. Trust is something that has to be brokered both ways from the base up and from the top down - It is quite evident that there is little of that about!
Somewhere along the line, ACPO has lost its sense of direction and forward vision! They appear to have no forward planning, or anticipation of what route matters are likely to take and therefore do not plan for the future! They seem to concentrate on matters that, whilst interesting, will have little or no effect on future policing - as evidence is now tending to show. What is needed is to put the vast majority of Officer back out on foot patrol - the more that are put out will, or should, mean smaller more managable beats. Part of crime prevention is the sight of uniformed officers who might just turn up at any time...... Attention to minor crimes/vandalism is also a priority.
After all numerous Senior Supervisors in different Countries have proved that the basic policing skills work even to-day!
Why are we all banging our heads against the wall, trying to come up with a cure for our law-and-order problem, when the answer has been on offer for a decade? Tony Blair utters the most insidious claptrap about rebalancing the criminal justice system in favour of the victim, when the justice system should not "favour" anyone. (Justice is blindfolded, remember?)
Today, David Cameron will propose a homegrown Bill of Rights to replace the foreign-born Human Rights Act, as if national ownership of the law were the solution rather than simply the beginning of the argument.
Mr Blair was doomed from the start on law and order. Once he had uttered that self-cancelling slogan, "Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime", he was locked into the mindset that he would now like to repudiate if only he had the political nerve.
To approach law enforcement on the premise that all crime is "caused" by social circumstances is to lose the battle before it begins. That is what ordinary people know and what Mr Blair would like to say, but in his speech last week, he funked it.
He implied that there was something deeply wrong with the philosophy that underpinned the criminal justice system, but somehow that question of basic philosophy got lost in a blizzard of procedural changes and confusion about civil liberties - and he left untouched the fundamental problem of a system that most people now see as profoundly out of touch with its purpose.
It was possible to hear the luminously obvious stated yet again last week at a conference organised by Politeia and the Manhattan Institute, the think tank behind New York's law-and-order miracle.
The American police spokesmen, retelling it all for the zillionth time, sounded so positive, so confident, so optimistic - so unlike our own defensive, whingeing criminal justice establishment busily blaming the press, or the politicians, or the public itself, for what seems to be its endemic failure.
Some of us are tired of hearing ourselves say it, but it is still true: we, in which I include politicians of all parties, know what the answer is to this problem.
I have lost count of the number of Home Office ministers and opposition spokesmen who have made their pilgrimages to William Bratton, New York's famous former police chief, to ask, like questing travellers in an Arabian legend, "What is the secret?" - and been duly and patiently told.
Virtually everyone who influences public policy in these matters can recite passages from James Q Wilson's "broken windows" theory of law enforcement.
The principles are so clear and so patently effective: it is crime prevention that matters to quality of life. If you act against the small offences that create a sense of civil disorder - what the British call hooliganism and anti-social behaviour - you prevent the bigger crimes that are bred by a culture of neglect and community breakdown.
In New York, they started by arresting the guys who jumped over the turnstiles in the subway instead of paying, and ended up turning a murder capital into the safest big city in America.
So here is the real mystery. Why hasn't it happened here? Why do British police still act as if the "little" crimes and the epidemic of commonplace destructiveness in the streets are beneath their notice? Why do they not accept that imposing order, as Mr Bratton said again last week, is an essential step to preventing crime? And why do the courts not actively support that concept of policing?
Because there is a lack of political will. Why is this so? And, more to the point, why is the will lacking here when it is not in the United States? Because public officials in America do not suffer from historical class guilt: the guilt that is embodied in that Blairite aphorism about the "causes of crime". This is where Mr Cameron's idea about a Bill of Rights comes in.
In the United States, constitutional rights are guaranteed as part of the 18th-century model of a social contract between the state and the people. The elected government undertakes to enforce the law, and the citizen undertakes to obey it.
Fundamental to this is the notion that the citizen is free to make decisions about whether or not he will commit crime.
Without that assumption - that individuals (unless they are truly mentally unfit) are responsible for their own actions - the entire logic of the system breaks down. So long as we accept the doctrine of socially determined criminality - that if a crime is committed, we are all at fault - we will never, ever be in a position to demand effective prosecution of criminals.
But, of course, many of us do not accept it. Law-abiding people, especially those who are poor and disadvantaged themselves, do not generally believe it is their fault when someone else commits a crime. This view is a self-indulgent, and deeply patronising, luxury of the privileged for whom the acceptance of the burden of guilt is a class shibboleth. Like so much else in British life, it comes down to snobbery.
To refuse to accept the guilt that makes you, a respectable citizen, responsible for criminality, is to mark yourself as a downmarket member of the tabloid rabble. So, bizarrely, social acceptance in enlightened circles requires even people who themselves came from poor, deprived backgrounds, and who did not become criminals, to deny that the poor and deprived might be capable of controlling their own impulses.
Of course, we must deal, as a society, with the problems that can lead people into crime; but that does not have to entail being excessively, irresponsibly lenient with those who have been led.
What follows from this is a disastrous fatalism: we must resign ourselves to the fact that we will never be able to reduce crime until we have solved the social problems of deprivation and poverty. But one thing they have learnt definitively in America, as Mr Bratton says repeatedly, is that good policing affects behaviour.
In other words, even people who are potential criminals can be influenced to make other choices if the community, through its approach to policing, asserts its will. Politicians talk endlessly about "respect" and the role it must play in promoting civil order.
They talk, too, of self-respect (or "self-esteem", as it is known) being a necessary part of this. What could be more essential to self-respect than the belief that you are responsible, under the law, for your own actions?
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Posted: 26 June 2006 at 12:39pm
Tony_w, I will try to put a little meat on the bones of history.
I disagree that police station strengths were smaller, in fact, evidence suggests they were bigger for a given area because we had several stations for areas that are now covered by 'super nicks'.
I worked in the outer reaches of the Met in my early service and when the nick reached its centenary (early 80s) there was an amount of research that showed that in the area covered, at that time by one station of some 20 officers, there had actually been some 50 officers at the station with a live-in Inspector and a similar number in the next village which, by then had had the station converted to flats!
We made our own arrests and processed prisoners for offences up to ABH, TDA etc. including taking them to court and leading the prosecution. This truly was community policing and led to quick disposal with minimum paperwork.
Then it all changed..............
Someone decided it would be a good idea to run the Police Service as a business, giving senior officers budgetry control, setting performance targets, moving officers around for 'career development'.
Unfortunately the fundamental issues of policing were not understood and we have gone downhill ever since! To manage budgets, to show value for money, to hit targets etc., are matters for a business and the object of most businesses is to produce a product which is then sold for a profit, thereby making money for the people involved.
The Police Service cannot do this, in fact, the oft quoted success of policing is defined as an absence of crime and how on earth do you measure an absence? So we have been put into a position where we concentrate on things that can be measured so that we can show performance, crazy eh?
For years senior officers refused to acknowledge a link between crime and drug use and, in my early crime squad days, we were banned from doing any drug related work because drugs didn't figure in the reported crime statistics as no-one made allegations of drug use in the same way as burglaries etc. were reported, and, therefore, didn't afford us an opportunity to show them as 'solved'.
This meant that crime that went across station area borders was ignored as any funds spent didn't necessarily tick the right boxes for the senior managers, so squads were formed to deal with these crimes, taking officers from street policing never to return. This has become a vicious circle as officers now hop from squad to squad concentrating on specialist crimes.
As we have run out of front line officers stations have closed and geographical areas become covered by larger and larger stations, providing minimum strength cover for bigger and bigger slices of the population. Senior managers who may have been half decent police officers soon showed they had no idea of budgetry management so members of support staff were brought in to run the station finances without a clue as to policing demands and, therefore, we have crime and policing issues decided by the bank manager and not the senior police officer.
Those that are now in the senior positions, and those aspiring to get there, have become a hybrid of the police/finance manager and everything has to be measured and if you can't measure it you can't do it!
So we re-invent community policing which is a wonderful idea but watch this space. What, I wonder, will happen when area 'A' has crime reduced to zero and the quality of life for the residents improved when area 'B' suffers an increase in reported incidents? Move officers from 'A' to 'B' perhaps, meaning..........yes you've guessed it .
Oh well, chin up.
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Posted: 26 June 2006 at 3:18pm
I regret to tell you that published statistics show otherwise as regards to numbers of Officers - Countrywide as well! The problem is than the police numbers game has not kept up with the population gain! There is one difference and that is they are a lot younger than previous years and with a lot less service!
Yes, like you, I too served in the Met. Like you we processed all our own arrests and presented them at Bow Street Magistrates Court as well - under the Sterne eye of Sir Ken(?) Barraclough (spelling ?). Some, not all, of our County Cousins also played with the same chips as we did, and in many cases, with less facilities than we did in the Met. I have a lot of respect for them!
The problem is that the gain in police numbers has not kept place with the population gain, and that has been magnified by instantaneous communications and the high expectancies of police capabilities! There was a brief period when police numbers did dramatically drop to danger levels - three Royal Commissions bear testament to those days!
The problem as you say was the fact that ACPO were not trained to deal with financial management and ever dwindling budgets on which they were expected to meet the ever growing demands of a thirsty population which was changing quite radically and swiftly. Here we must look at the Brixton, Leeds, and Birmingham Racial Integration problems. We also had the Miners Strike, to mention but one, thrown into the boiling pot. The Police Service as a whole, along with its Masters, did not accept the challenges head on and change to meet the changing face of the population they policed! Instead they threw all their efforts into addressing the symptoms and not the causes (which was the Government of the days responsibility)on both sides!
As for performance targets - I know of no Police Service/Force anywhere that does not have such targets to meet. The problem is, I believe, that this became the all important master which had to be satisfied at all costs. True, you cannot measure crime prevention easily other than through the absence of crime. A sensible approach and compromise was never reached, and Senior Supervisors were far too petrified to do other than kowtow to the Governments performance targets! It appeared to me that the majority just wanted a quiet time... Few, if many, were prepared to stand-up and be counted.
I think that you will find that drugs have always paid a part in crime - That is what the Vagrancy Act shows us. Alcoholic drink is a drug.....take it or leave it! I have proved to myself, when I was a serving Officer, several times that if you can remove both drink and drugs, the crime problem is significantly reduced in that area. My Peers had also proved that to themselves - so it was nothing new.
Some years ago now, I spoke to a very Senior Supervisor who openly admitted that the man management/logistics planning in the police service was chronic. The rationale was that it was easier to have many at one place where they could be got hold of quickly, if needed, than it was to have them spread about in clusters! It was also easier to cover the gaps, somehow, by having super cop shops! I suppose in terms of finances this may be true to a certain extent, but it is not conducive to better and more efficient methods of policing!
What I am saying is not new news, and some, such as Mr Bratton and Mr Mallon to mention but just two, have proved what we say over and over again.
Turning to your aspect of Squads/Teams - In days of old!!! the Officers on adjoining beats came to your assistance if needed - but everything started with the Local Beat Officer/Village Bobby. At the successful conclusion of the problem, those Officers returned to their own areas.......now it appears they are held in reserve in the super-nicks where they can wonder round with ruler, pen, and pad looking busy and important!!!! The is a logistics and man management problem at intermediate supervisor level?
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Posted: 26 June 2006 at 3:21pm
I have read Bill Bratton's book (found it in the local library one day by accident).
From his own account there is a lot of proper experience (both good and bad) stored up in his head. The is also the entertaining tale of his being basically kicked out of the Police department he first joined (as he wouldn't become chief), to his first major success as the head of the NYC transit police (the local BTP, I suppose). His success in turning them around led eventually to his ascendance to the chief of the NYPD (and after that he left, went into private business for a little while, but now heads the LAPD).
Amoungst the many ideas he draws attention to (and espirite de corps plays a large part in it) I didn't see anywhere "dream up something that looks like a policeman, but had none of their powers".
Assertive (not aggressive) policing is at the core of what Bratton found worked in his tenure, and it made the public feel safer to see loads of coppers-and don't forget NYPD has over 30,000; and crucially if you are sad enough to check (or take it from a muppet like me) Bratton has reguarly had a go at the LA city council for failing to let him recruit enough old bill. LAPD used to be about 9,000 strong last time I checked; for a city the size of LA that's pants. Now, we can argue that there is the LA Sherrif, etc. But with so few police, hardly surprising a (ahem) *robust* style of policing developed....
I can not think of a single equivalent to the PCSO either in North America or in Europe. The money spent on them could have recruited more actual police who could actually arrest someone and actually convict them at court.
if Blair hadn't spent the last ten years encouraging everyone and their pit bull dog to demand their human rights, complain about police and have no prison to put them in by the end of it; he might have done something about crime. So it's pretty poor to stand about now ranting at judges and give us another box load of PCSO's.
I've ended a rant on this subject before with the comments of Sir Charles Rowallan, but I note his ninth principal
To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.
The sooner league tables and performance indicators and sanctioned detections get wedgie'd right back up the home office bod that invented them and we can get back to nicking people, the better.
Either Blair can check the rest of Sir Charles' widsom here:
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Posted: 26 June 2006 at 7:24pm
Sneaky .....Bratton is a very interesting man.....I am watching his progress with LAPD with great interest. If you have that book with you, would you please note the title and ISBN number for me, and send it via the PM button at the bottom of your Post. Thanks
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Posted: 27 June 2006 at 6:36pm
Unfortunately we are blessed with working for the most fickle bunch of people the world has ever seen....the "great" British public.
They cry for zero tolerance and i guarauntee that if it was ever implemented they would be moaning about it faster than you could say "Daily Mail"
The fact is we live in a country where the courts have decided that anyone can call a police officer a W"£ker, C**t, f**king pig etc...and they should take it. One where you tell someone to do something and the next thing you know who have to spend ten minutes explaining in detail why you are aloud to do this. Is it any wonder why we don't care anymore?
The police in America have a confident tough air about them. We are not allowed to have such an attitude in this country, for if we so much as raise our voice to someone the next thing you know your either hauled into your guvnors office or the IPCC is knocking on your door.
The only people who are to blame are the government for eroding the very authority the police once had. We are nothing more than statistics generators for civil servants.
If it takes an American police chief to sort out the Met or any other force i would be more than happy to serve under him.
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Posted: 28 June 2006 at 12:44pm
Rodders, there is alot of truth in what you say. However, always remember that it is the empty vessels that make the most noise! Now with that comment I must stop!!!!
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Originally posted by tony_w
Rodders, there is alot of truth in what you say. However, always remember that it is the empty vessels that make the most noise! Now with that comment I must stop!!!!
Too late, Tony. Your contibutions to this thread are already longer than the others.
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Posted: 28 June 2006 at 2:43pm
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I can not think of a single equivalent to the PCSO either in North America or in Europe.
The UK can get away with PCSOs because you have a tradition of unarmed policing. A category of policing like that, in DC particularly, would be a suicide mission. Our meter people have to walk in pairs so many of them have been assaulted and threatened.
Also, the public here wouldn't go for a police officer who looks like a duck, walks like a duck, but isn't a duck. Nope. First time they weren't able to make an arrest or really police....Lawsuits!
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Posted: 28 June 2006 at 4:16pm
I met Ray Mallon on several occasions. He was well thought of by the rank and file because he got things done. There was alot of jealousy from above because Ray was in the 'limelight', and they were not. Malicious allegations were made against him as they knew that would cause him to be suspended from his pro-active job. The Chief at the time was not a nice man and several MP's tried to get him removed from his post.(I seem to remember he left under a cloud) Those were not the only problems in Cleveland at the time.
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Posted: 28 June 2006 at 10:00pm
Penwich - Aw shucks! sus'd out again!
Maverick - I too have only heard good about Ray Mallon Not only from his Colleagues but also from a few of his self-confessed Enemies. As you say there were many other problems about at the time! In-fighting all but nearly destroyed that Force.
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