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Quote Maverick22 Replybullet Topic: Sensible Jury.
    Posted: 13 March 2010 at 11:23am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8564807.stm  Good, another sensible decision by a jury.   If you break and enter someones home you must be ready to suffer for it. 
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Quote BIkerider Replybullet Posted: 13 March 2010 at 11:17pm
The Devon DCI didn't seem to pleased with the verdict though!
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Quote Maverick22 Replybullet Posted: 14 March 2010 at 5:58am
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The Devon DCI didn't seem to pleased with the verdict though!
He probably wasn't too happy because he lost his case, which he probably put in  many hours of work, which could have been saved if the CPS had had the guts to write NFA on the file at an early stage. 
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Quote M&MBM Replybullet Posted: 14 March 2010 at 7:11am
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The Devon DCI didn't seem to pleased with the verdict though!
 
You know, I feel uneasy when police officers say things like this. It's as if he has judged the case iun his own mind. It['s not his job to make judgements, it's his job to ensure that evidence is gathered and presented to those making the judgements.
 
Whatever his private thoughts I think they should remain private in the face of a Jury's decision.
 
Otherwise Jurors will feel they have to go with the police decision, as it were. ie the defendant is in court so they must be guilty. If I were on that Jury I would feel"Told off" and if I were the Defendant I would feel that the Jury's decision was undermined. If I were a neighbour I might think the Defendant was guilty despite the verdict.
 
So to my mind, comments like that are out of order. STFU and take the verdict on the chin, sir.
 
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Quote Maverick22 Replybullet Posted: 14 March 2010 at 7:17am
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Originally posted by BIkerider

The Devon DCI didn't seem to pleased with the verdict though!
 
You know, I feel uneasy when police officers say things like this. It's as if he has judged the case iun his own mind. It['s not his job to make judgements, it's his job to ensure that evidence is gathered and presented to those making the judgements.
 
Whatever his private thoughts I think they should remain private in the face of a Jury's decision.
 
Otherwise Jurors will feel they have to go with the police decision, as it were. ie the defendant is in court so they must be guilty. If I were on that Jury I would feel"Told off" and if I were the Defendant I would feel that the Jury's decision was undermined. If I were a neighbour I might think the Defendant was guilty despite the verdict.
 
So to my mind, comments like that are out of order. STFU and take the verdict on the chin, sir.
 
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Quote Penbwlch Replybullet Posted: 14 March 2010 at 8:02am
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You know, I feel uneasy when police officers say things like this. It's as if he has judged the case iun his own mind. It['s not his job to make judgements, it's his job to ensure that evidence is gathered and presented to those making the judgements.
 


Another by-product of the CPS? If he had had to present the case at committal, he may have seen things through different eyes.
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Quote M&MBM Replybullet Posted: 14 March 2010 at 8:24am
Maybe... or maybe the CPS made a complete balls up of the case, and he's frustrated.
It must be galling if you gather the evidence then someone else apparently screws up the prosecution.
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Quote Maverick22 Replybullet Posted: 14 March 2010 at 9:03am
It is always the CPS who screw up cases.  They are the ones that check the files and ask for further enquiries etc etc, if required, and decide if the case should go ahead.  If the trial goes ahead and fails it is often because the CPS have not asked for further enquires, then they BLAME the POLICE for the failure.(thats a bit of a generalisation, but near enough the truth). 

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