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Quote IveToldYouOnce Replybullet Topic: Section 59 Question
    Posted: 07 March 2010 at 7:48pm
...........from something I've just seen on an episode of "Road Wars"......


Can you give a Section 59 warning to a driver for having a registation plate that doesn't conform to regulations?

Doesn't seem to be right.........but somebody here will know!!
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Quote 999tommo Replybullet Posted: 10 March 2010 at 4:33pm
Apologies for being Scottish mate, but is a Section 59 something to do with the ASBO leglistation ?  We don't have Section 59 up here.
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Quote IveToldYouOnce Replybullet Posted: 11 March 2010 at 9:48pm
Yeah, if you're using your car in an anti-social manner then you get a Section 59 warning - which then applies to the driver and the vehicle itself.

Get another one within 12 months and the car gets seized - that can be the driver or another driver in the same car.


I'm not sure that having a dodgy number plate can be counted as being 'anti-social' per se............
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Quote M&MBM Replybullet Posted: 11 March 2010 at 9:50pm
Is having a dodgy number plate "Going equipped"?
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Quote ranroz Replybullet Posted: 11 March 2010 at 10:28pm
Talking of Nmr Plates I saw a good one on the way back to Holland in the UK.
Just One letter and one nmr by the way he was driving the nmr was his age.
 
I bet it cost him a pretty penny also.
 
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Quote IveToldYouOnce Replybullet Posted: 11 March 2010 at 10:34pm
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Is having a dodgy number plate "Going equipped"?


No.........unless it's going equipped to look like a total knob of course.  Smile
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Quote M&MBM Replybullet Posted: 11 March 2010 at 10:37pm
I was thinking of going equipped to make off without paying for petrol.
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Quote M&MBM Replybullet Posted: 11 March 2010 at 10:38pm
Erm... let me rephrase that, because it looks so wrong. I meant, is having a dodgy or cloned plate going equipped to steal petrol?
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Quote IveToldYouOnce Replybullet Posted: 11 March 2010 at 10:52pm
Cloned plates might be, but there would be all sorts of other stuff going on with a cloned plate.

And dodgy plates are just stupid..........and don't "conform to regulations"....
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Quote M&MBM Replybullet Posted: 11 March 2010 at 10:59pm
OH, I'm being a duuuururhh here. Sorry. Embarrassed
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Quote Cockneybob Replybullet Posted: 13 March 2010 at 2:45pm
ITYO, brace yourself
If your refering to Sec 59 Police reform act 2005, then in short I do not believe they can.
 
We know you have to have the driving amounted to Due Care or inconsiderate (Sec 3 RTA '88) OR Driving other than on a road (Sec 34 RTA '88)
 
Once that element has been fulfilled we move onto the next bit...
 
Their driving IS causing or is LIKELY to cause alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public.
 
From this the appropriate offence, as I'm sure you'd agree, would be contrary to Road vehicle (display of registration marks) Regulations 2001.
 
However this secondary legislation is from Vehicle Excise Registration Act 1994. Failing to comply with the regs ie misrepresented plate etc) amounts to an offence contrary to Sec 59 of VERA 1994.
 
I haven't seen the program you refer to, but owing to your query I'd probably guess the officer was dishing out a police reform act warning which would be wrong.
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Quote IveToldYouOnce Replybullet Posted: 14 March 2010 at 1:14pm
Originally posted by Cockneybob

ITYO, brace yourself
If your refering to Sec 59 Police reform act 2005, then in short I do not believe they can.

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I haven't seen the program you refer to, but owing to your query I'd probably guess the officer was dishing out a police reform act warning which would be wrong.


Thank you CB - it didn't sound right, but it was on the telly so it had to be true! Wink

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Quote TC Black Rat Replybullet Posted: 20 March 2010 at 7:03pm
If its the episode i think your talking about, and the word which this index plate spelt i think you may need to go down the public order route. I think it was a harsh spelling of the word      w---er on a porsche, although bthats what it clearly looked like i dont think it comes under a sec 59, perhaps a pnd for public order offence and also a notification to Swansea ?
Going back to the plates spelling and the bloke driving it, i thought it was very apt LOL !


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Quote IveToldYouOnce Replybullet Posted: 21 March 2010 at 12:28pm
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......spelling of the word      w---er on a porsche, although bthats what it clearly looked................


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Yup - that would explain that then!  Thanks! Smile
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